The PlayFull Podcast
Whether you’re ladling soup at a local shelter or attending a UN Peace Conference, those who devote their lives to the service of others are often exhausted and in need of a little break.
Welcome to the PlayFull Podcast, where host Kristine Michie and her guests bring fun to the serious work of changing the world.
Scot Nakagawa and Zev Mishell: Why Joy Is Essential to Democracy
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie sits down with activist and strategist Scot Nakagawa and organizer Zev Mishell to explore how joy, play, faith, and ritual sustain people and movements through long struggles for justice. Drawing from decades of organizing, interfaith work, and personal history, they reflect on why burnout is a structural risk, how symbols and embodied practices build belonging, and why faith and politics are never truly separate. Together, they invite listeners to reimagine resistance as not only strategic but cultural and emotional—showing how imagination, care, and playful protest help movements endure, communicate meaning at scale, and keep showing up when the work feels heavy.
Liberation through Reading & Writing: The Language of Justice with Reginald Dwayne Betts
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie sits down with poet, lawyer, and MacArthur Fellow Reginald Dwayne Betts to explore how joy, language, and access to stories sustain liberation and resilience in social justice work. Reflecting on his writing, his nonprofit Freedom Reads, and his lived experience, Betts invites listeners to reconsider how beauty, imagination, and serious work coexist—showing how words, books, and thoughtfully designed spaces can reshape systems, nurture hope, and sustain long-term movement building.
Jenan Mohajir: Building Bridges, Holding Difference, and Finding Joy Together
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie talks with Jenan Mohajir, an educator, storyteller, and Vice President of External Affairs at Interfaith America, about the beauty and power of pluralism. They explore how local communities become sites of healing, how faith-based service shapes civic leadership, and how trust, humility, and storytelling sustain long-term work for the common good.
Voting as an Act of Faith with Rev. Naomi Washington‑Leapheart
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie talks with Rev. Naomi Washington-Leapheart, a Black queer preacher, teacher, and justice advocate, about integrating faith, politics, and joy into social change. They explore how voting and civic engagement can be expressions of faith, how reclaiming spiritual language fuels imagination and action, and how play and creativity sustain resilience in long-term justice work.
Rev. Jennifer Butler: Reclaiming Faith to Inspire Action
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie talks with Rev. Jennifer Butler, founder of Faith in Democracy, about infusing joy, faith, and community into social change and exploring how spiritual language, humor, and compassion can renew resilience and help bridge divided communities.
Nicholas Ma: Documenting Change with the Cameras Running
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie talks with filmmaker Nicholas Ma about using creative storytelling and sustained in-person conversations to bridge divides, spark empathy, and strengthen community.
Michelle Sobel & Harry Gottlieb: Strengthening Democracy Through Joyful Collaboration
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie talks with Michelle Sobel and Harry Gottlieb—co-founders of Unify America—about reducing polarization, rebuilding civic trust, and helping people collaborate across differences with curiosity and play.
Shantel Suárez Ávila and Claire Groebner: Creating Impact Without Sacrificing Joy
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, Kristine Michie talks with Shantel Suárez Ávila and Claire Groebner about centering lived experience, embracing play, and leading an abundance-minded approach to equity while building resilience, trust, and community impact.
Samra Haider: Reimagining Justice through Play, Purpose, and Proximity
In this episode, Host Kristine Michie talks with Samra Haider, CEO of the Geraldine R. Dodge Foundation, about reimagining philanthropy and using play, imagination, and local leadership to close New Jersey’s vast racial wealth gap.
Bob Dalton: Building Real Connection In A Digital World
In this episode, Bob Dalton joins The PlayFull Podcast to share how LOCL uses technology to spark real-world connection, proving that mission-driven entrepreneurship and people-centered design can turn digital spaces into thriving local communities.
Don Howard: California Dreaming of Jobs, Justice, and a Future where Everyone Thrives
In this episode, Don Howard joins Kristine Michie to discuss how empathy, equity, and innovation in philanthropy can shape a more inclusive future of work in an AI-driven world.
Lorna Olivia McCormack: Sparking Sustainability Through Heritage, Heart, and Running for Office
In this episode of The PlayFull Podcast, host Kristine Michie talks with Lorna Olivia McCormack, founder of Wool in School and a former Irish presidential candidate. Together, they explore how creativity, sustainability, and empathy can transform leadership and learning.
[Rewind] Play is Intrinsic & Essential | Dr. Stuart Brown, National Institute for Play
Join us as Dr. Stuart Brown, often hailed as the father of play, delves into the profound significance of play across human history and its pivotal role in shaping our world, with insights spanning from Aristotle to modern research and practical applications for today's changemakers.
[Leadership Rewind] Jean Oelwang: Proclaiming Something Unacceptable is a Great Place to Start
Embark on a journey with Jean Oelwang, CEO of Virgin Unite, as she reveals the transformative power of joy, play, and purpose in tackling the world's challenges alongside luminaries like Richard Branson and global icons.
[Leadership Rewind] Latanya Mapp: Now more than ever, the Play & Pivots that Make Philanthropy Better
Discover how Latanya Mapp's blend of playfulness and purpose propels her as CEO of Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors, as she shares anecdotes of music, clarinet passion, and Play-Doh, demonstrating that play is a cornerstone of her impactful leadership journey.
[Leadership Rewind] David Risher: Lyft’s CEO is Driving Change – and Always Has
Join Kristine and David in a lively conversation exploring the intersection of playfulness and leadership at Lyft, the surprising impact of ridesharing statistics, and the importance of doing the right thing for the world.
Andrea Longton:When Lattes Become Legacy: Empowering Everyday Investors to Drive Social Justice
Kristine Michie and Andrea Longton explore how aligning financial decisions with social and climate justice can drive impactful change, empowering individuals to use their wealth—no matter the amount—to build a better world.
Amy Javaid: Unpacking Furniture Poverty – Why a Roof Overhead is Just the Start
In this week's episode of The PlayFull Podcast, we explore Amy Javaid's inspirational journey as CEO of A Wider Circle, where she leads a national movement to alleviate furniture poverty with innovative initiatives like hiding rubber ducks throughout their warehouse, infusing play, compassion, and dignity into the process to not only delight clients and staff but also to make a game out of filling empty homes with "donations with dignity".
Carmela Castellano: Lessons in Changemaking from Folklórico Dancing
Embrace the joy of every stage of your journey, finding playfulness and meaning in retirement and beyond, as Carmela Castellano shares insights from her 30-year career and the lessons of Folklórico dancing on The PlayFull Podcast.
Sam Lewis: Lessons in Leadership from Cell to C-Suite
Join us as we delve into the transformative power of play in the fight against mass incarceration with Sam Lewis, CEO of the Anti-Recidivism Coalition, highlighting the integral role of playfulness in reshaping policies and fostering resilience within diverse teams.
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